September 10, 2008


I thought I'd weigh in on Lipstickgate.

Obama said, "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig." He was referring to how McCain is now also running as the candidate for change. Many folks are upset that Obama seemingly called Palin a pig.

Let me say, I thought it was the funniest, most clever thing to ever come out of Obama's mouth.

I mean, come on: that's a great comeback. I personally don't think it has to be taken as sexist. Palin used lipstick to get a laugh line and a round of applause; Obama turned the tables back at her with a well-known idiom.

I honestly thought it was the funniest thing Obama's ever said. But I'm nutty like that. People really seem to be freaking out about this and saying that it will cost Obama support. Hey, whatever makes people not vote for him...

But you know what's way more offensive than what Obama said? What Juan Cole said: "What's the difference between Palin and Muslim fundamentalists? Lipstick." That article is just sick.

Posted by Sarah at September 10, 2008 09:10 AM | TrackBack

I guess for anyone who hasn’t been paying attention this would be just an innocent remark. Obama and his wife have a tendency to make this type of remarks that taken by themselves or that fall on unsuspecting ears sound innocent on the surface. Couple them together with their numerous arrogant and condescending remarks, the picture becomes clear to those who not blinded by the façade that is the Obama’s.

I guess the old saying is true – ‘you can fool some of the people…Sorry Sarah, but frankly you come off as someone too smart to fall for this type of crap. Maybe you haven’t been exposed to this type of person/people but they exist and they have you fooled.

Posted by: tim at September 10, 2008 10:00 AM

I certainly think it will be a huge mistake on the McCain campaign's part to do anything short of turning such a thing around on Obama's.

Asking for an apology is just babyish. I mean, if you can throw a punch, you need to be able to take one. They've lobbed quite a few his way (FINALLY!!) and they should do what every good fighter does, take their opponent's weight and shift it back on him to put him on the floor.

Starting to talk about pigs, rather than pit bulls, lends itself to pork barrel spending talk and I REALLY think they should talk about all the money Obama wants to take from people like me only to turn it around and hand it over to other this chick I heard on the radio who wants to know what Obama will do for people who, like her, graduated from college & can't find a job in their field. (Never imagining she should just get a JOB, field be durned).
I think this wait for bar results is getting to me b/c I'm SURLY this week.

Posted by: Guard Wife at September 10, 2008 10:01 AM

I agree with you. I think he was going for a quick joke. There is no way he would use that as an attack line. One of his writers probably suggested it. I've noticed he doesn't seem to be very good at ad-libbing.

OTOH, I read yesterday that Obama is the choice of the world for president. Thank goodness, I was afraid he would not be able to find a job if he loses in November. But, now he has 22 nations who want him.

Posted by: Pamela at September 10, 2008 10:02 AM

I think that the reaction of the crowd behind him shows what they took the remark to mean, though. And even AP noted that many of the crowd took the remarks to mean Palin.

Maybe his biggest problem is that he was trying to appear "folksy" and all that, and he's just NOT. Someone who uses phrases like that on a regular basis also knows when not to use it. He's missing that little bit of hardwiring.

Posted by: airforcewife at September 10, 2008 10:20 AM

"I read yesterday that Obama is the choice of the world for president. Thank goodness, I was afraid he would not be able to find a job if he loses in November. But, now he has 22 nations who want him."

I love it, Pamela! Yeah, I get really irritated when my Euro friends say they like Obama. I want to say: okay, then elect him as YOUR president.

Posted by: CaliValleyGirl at September 10, 2008 10:30 AM

I'm with you on this, about Obama's comment and Juan Cole's. (Talk about extremism! Point that finger back at yourself, buddy.)

Posted by: Butterfly Wife at September 10, 2008 10:32 AM

What airforcewife said. Exactly.

Posted by: Emily at September 10, 2008 11:00 AM

you can also put an American flag pin on a socialist, and that does not make them an American...

Posted by: awtm at September 10, 2008 11:58 AM

Gee, Tim, I guess I'm not as smart as you thought.

Anyway, I never said that I didn't think the line was *intentional.* Of course it was! I just don't think it was sexist. I think it was in direct response to Palin's lipstick hockey joke, but I didn't find it overly offensive just because she's a woman. That's what I meant.

And I thought it was a snappy comeback. Score one for Obama's wit. And Guard Wife is right that a counter-attack on pork spending would be even wittier!

Posted by: Sarah at September 10, 2008 01:44 PM

That phrase is used so often, I can't believe he used it to call Palin a "pig." I don't like Obama's positions on just about every issue, but I don't think he's looking to be intentionally cruel. I agree...he looked spontaneous on the stump when he said it...very unscripted. I don't think it was that bad...and I also agree that it's not in the McCain camp's best interest to pursue this...just move on.

Posted by: Nicole at September 10, 2008 02:47 PM

I'm not offended by the joke. I didn't find it particularly witty, but I didn't find it sexist either. Meh.

Posted by: Lissa at September 10, 2008 02:48 PM

I don’t think it was sexist either, I just think it was crude, rude and obnoxious. Pretty much par for the course form what I’ve seen of Obama and his wife.

Let’s review; this a man who went to Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years, worked with Bill Ayers a Domestic Terrorist, came up through the corrupt Chicago political scene, accused the people from Pennsylvania of “clinging to their guns and religion”, threw his own grandmother under the bus as a “typical white person” while trying to condescendingly give us all a speech on race, not to mention numerous campaign speech gaffes and objectionable double meaning jabs clearly directed towards Hillary, McCain and now Palin.

And you want to give this man the benefit of the doubt that he was just jus being cute and funny, fine go ahead. His next line after the “pig” crack was just innocently referencing “fish” right? I’ll gladly side with the rest who think otherwise and from the looks of it I’m in good company.

BTW, my apologies, upon rereading my first comment I came on too strong, especially in regards to the “smart” crack. Sorry.

Posted by: tim at September 10, 2008 04:51 PM