I just got back from watching Fahrencrap 9/11 with some friends; the one husband mailed his bootleg copy from Iraq, so we thought we'd give it a look. I thought I'd have a lot to say after I watched it, but I only have three words for Michael Moore. Boring. As. Hell. Seriously, my friend put it best when she said it was like watching one of those videos in middle school where you knew there would be a quiz but you could barely keep your eyes open. Maybe it was because I've already read so much commentary about the movie, but I found myself looking at my watch a lot. There were a few funny bits that kept us going, but that's not saying much; there were funny bits in Dude, Where's My Car? too, but it ain't winnin' any awards. I can't believe people had to pay money to see this movie.
Oh, and I could've gone my whole life without hearing Michael Moore say "who's your daddy"...
Posted by Sarah at August 1, 2004 12:07 AMI told you about it. How mad were you after the movie? I wonder how good the showing went in Crawford, TX?
Posted by: birdie at August 1, 2004 12:30 AMWith over a hundred million in revenues so far and the Cannes Film Festival Award for best picture it seems your opinion is pretty marginal.
Posted by: dc at August 1, 2004 04:34 AMI would hardly say that view is marginal. $100 million in revenue is not chump change, but it doesn't mean it is mainstream either. The level of rhetoric surrounding the debunking of the very same movie demonstrates exactly the opposite. In a world where Nobel prizes are given out as political statements I hardly think a Cannes award lends much credibility.
Posted by: John at August 1, 2004 09:27 AMdc,
Have you seen the movie? It's the worst documentary I've ever seen. And it's as boring as Sarah said it was. I'm gonna pop it in the dvd player when I can't sleep at night.
Posted by: Bush Lover at August 1, 2004 12:54 PMI did see the movie at a sold out theater in Orange County, CA. I heard the audience laugh, I heard the audience cry, I did not hear any yawns, and at the end the audience rose up in a standing ovation. I have never seen that at a movie before.
I thought the movie was a very effective critique of Bush from a very patriotic point of view.
Posted by: dc at August 1, 2004 04:53 PMdc,
I laughed when I read your poetic desription of the experience you had in that sold out Orange County theater. I don't know what movie you and the other loonies were watching, but I'd like whatever drugs you're on. There's nothing patriotic about bashing our commander in chief jack ass.
Posted by: Bush Lover at August 1, 2004 08:06 PMbush lover, you are confused. No one owes loyalty to Bush, he is just a politician trying his best to take care of his elite constituency. We owe our loyalty to America and to the American people. Bush is a terrible president and a terrible commander in chief and it is time he was replaced by someone worthy of those roles. If 'bashing bush' accomplished that task then by all means we should bash bush. But Bush does enough damage by his own actions that nothing I or anyone else can do can make him look any worse.
Posted by: dc at August 2, 2004 01:32 AMAmerica is a whole lot larger and more diverse than orange county CA and it is hardly respresentative of the country as a whole. I saw the same reaction you describe at the end of Saving Private Ryan with one audience, stunned silence and respect from a different audience.
Cheering something does not make it the truth, and sipping the kool-aid is bad for your critical thinking skills.
Posted by: John at August 2, 2004 02:40 AMIt's been a while since Iv'e seen the movie so may be someone can help me out. What did the dead soldier say in his letter to his mother about Bush? Does anyone one remember?
Posted by: dc at August 2, 2004 05:56 PMWhy don't you remind us what the dead soldier said dc? You're the one that had the life-changing experience by watching that piece of crap film.
And unfortunately for you, Bush was elected by the majority of people in the US. If that doesn't earn him some respect, I don't know what will. Since you are so hard on Bush, I'd like to know how much fun you'd be having if Saddam were our president.
Posted by: Bush Lover at August 2, 2004 07:47 PM"And unfortunately for you, Bush was elected by the majority of people in the US."
Um. No. NO. NO!
Bush was NOT elected by the majority of the United States. He was NOT elected by a PLURALITY of the United States. He was the RUNNER-UP in the popular vote.
The only reason why Bush is occupying the White House is that states like Wyoming (pop. 500K) get 3 electoral votes while states like Connecticut (pop. 3M) get only eight.
So, Bush was the choice neither of a majority, nor a plurality of Americans.
"If that doesn't earn him some respect, I don't know what will."
How about paying something more than lip service to his so-called "compassionate conservatism?" How about not squandering the good will and respect of the rest of the world? How about testifying before the 9/11 commission without having his hand held by his vice-president?
Those would have been nice starters, but too late for that.
Posted by: Can't win at August 3, 2004 01:08 AMSeeing as how Bush Lover apparently slept through the last election, I seriously doubt he/she even knows the difference between a plurality and a majority. But you're right, Bush had neither. So by his/her logic, doesn't that mean we should have even more respect for Gore, since he did? Whaddya say, Bush Lover, give a shoutout to Gore, who deserves your respect for having won a larger share of the popular vote than Bush. I'll hold my breath.
Posted by: Like anyone cares at August 3, 2004 03:51 AMDC,
If only 8% of the country has seen the movie (and mathematically, fewer liked it) it seems the voices in opposition have a much larger base.
I wonder were you in the service when you heard the words of the "dead" soldier? I have heard the words of dying servicemen in combat.
If you would like to know what they say, I would be happy to educate you.
I don't want an reluctant warrior and opportunist as this country's C-in-C.
Just drop me line anytime you want, DC, I'll tell you all about what men say in combat.
//JCL
USMC '88-'94